The sunroof works great, only the shade won't move Any ideas of what could be happening? Make sure to take ALL the little pieces you take off the junker many pieces may look similar to ones you have but they are slightly different (so substitution isn't really possible). The Volvo Genuine Part number is 9483170. Sunroof Stuck Open: Check Electricals. This requires you to remove the four hoses and clips around the perimiter. Should I disconnect the battery again and then do it? This happens to me every time I do a battery. 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. Having a Sun/Moon roof unable to open can be a pain, but not being able to close it can cost thousands of dollars in damages to your vehicle. How do I properly time the crank with these cycles?. Working from outside the car, pull down one corner of the inner sunroof headliner and release the flat spring bails that hold the inner headliner/sunroof panel to the outer sunroof panel. Sunshade is stuck fully open. This will reset the computer. Instead of having the springs slip through holes in the little arms of the front grooves (like the older models), the springs in the newer design have plastic o-rings that slip around the metal rods. The black cam followers had fairly sharp points that rested on the surface of the cam, while the white one had a rather blunt point. [John Sargent] I can tell you the moonroof tray is not nearly as good as the sunroof It also turns out that these pieces and their accompanying brackets aren't stainless, because the whole damned thing was rusting like mad. The front of the roof pops up into position only by riding up on the collapsed wind deflector. The mechanism on most cars consists a grab/release on the door and a simple metal hop at the bottom of the frame. [Rick Tilghman] Let me just say that you want to use 1/8" headliner EVERYWHERE, not just on the sunroof. If these do not drain, chances are the drain is blocked or the hose is kinked. by brandonbeach14 13 May 2011, 11:55, Post Having read other posts from brickers about this annoyance, I thought I'd post my results. Sunroof Removal. When you install the new one put a little silicone in the crack and then hold it firmly. There is one towards each upper corner of the cloth cover . If not, I can't help. JavaScript is disabled. Problem solved. On this disk are three cams. Remove the screws from the sides of the pan. They are fairly obvious and easy to access with needle-nose pliers. How extensive is it to perform, or is it a square peg into a round hole Do you know of a good aftermarket manual crank or motor unit available? BTW, if the motor moves you will have to retime the motor :-) more on this later. [Tips from Dan Williams] Removing the sunroof is not as daunting as you might think. Result: So far the sunroof has operated 100% reliably. [Tip from Bob] Start with the roof in the closed position. Test the sunroof switch and its wires with a multimeter. Close the panoramic roof from fully open position. Alignment Notes. by VCA 13 May 2011, 10:13, Post You will notice the cranking mechanism is nothing more than a modified worm gear arrangement. The dealer said the 2016 model had issues with water getting in and causing electrical problems. Reinstall the crank, and turn clockwise (vent position) till it stops. You can find the button for controlling the panoramic roof above the interior rearview mirror. Here are some other possible issues with a Volvo XC90s sunroof: The sunroof can be leaking if it is not working properly. Something about unhooking some springs or clips to remove the "push back guard(?)" Normal behavior is swiping for both, pressing once on the back side just vents the roof. The rear just does not lift high enough. Reinstall the gear to the roof. Tighten the screws back into place to check the functioning of the sunroof by opening and closing it as far as it can go. Many phone calls later, Volvo Roadside Assistance (Theresa) went as far to say that Volvo only answers the phone 24/7 but can not necessarily respond 24/7. SOURCE: volvo xc90 rear hatch door closed and won't open Hold the hatch hard closed into its frame whilst pulling on the release handle. Align the control mechanisms with the slots for the small plastic covered tabs, slight back and forth motion works here. Connect with a verified mechanic in minutes. Volvo is a car manufacturer that is best known for its robust safety features, durability, and design. Perhaps it may be of use to others. But don't align the gear points directly with the three level plunger - they will interfere when putting the cover back on. This extender has springloaded ends that slip over silver arm extentions from the front groove. If sunroof is in closed position push sunroof button to rotate the motor CCW to the closed position. This certified CARFAX 1-owner vehicle has only had one owner before you. I also don't have a remote for the car, but I'm not sure if that would be an issue or not. This groove allows a metal pin to slide back and forth, limiting and manipulating the sunroofs vent action. Other car I worked on was a crank-driven roof on an 85 740 GLE, but I think there was no involvement with these cables, except to unclip 'em when the panel came out? [Tips from Ken Dibnah] If you need to remove the roof, close it as far as required to reach the rear screws; the screws at each corner remove easily and the panel then lifts out (I have contemplated putting in a glass roof like a 780.hmmmm). XC90 and XC90 Twin Engine/Recharge Plug-in Hybrid from model year 2016 to 2022, S90, V90 and V90 Cross Country from model year 2017 to 2021. [Response: Rob Abel] Our sunroof in our '93 940 acts goofy at times. In use it is necessary to wait until the first application has dried; when using in cold damp conditions it takes longer than 30 mins. These are the procedures I used to fix my sunroof. Is there a way to reset it or to manually close it. 2 Operate the sunroof switch to position the sunroof in the tilt position, then release the switch. Always operate the panoramic roof with caution. Sunroof Alignment: Won't Retract Properly. The adjustment screws on my sunroof were maxed, and the sunroof was still low. Install the motor. Do not allow children to play with the controls. To fully open the sunroof, press the control backwards again. Close the panoramic roof from fully open position Press the button downward twice to close the panoramic roof from fully open position. by VCA 13 May 2011, 16:17, Post First founded in 1927, it has grown to become one of the most well-known car brands in the world. If there is no resistance, then the wiring of the circuit is good. For insurance Volvo Car UK Limited is an Appointed Representative of Lloyd Latchford Group Limited who are authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority, FRN 496330. [Tip from Warren Bain. Clicks and doesn't move - gets stuck - usually open - have had to close it manually by taking off cover and using screwdriver. My car has push start button. Close the panoramic roof from ventilation position. It is considered to be one of the safest cars on the market and comes with a host of safety features. Sunroof won't open more than 3/4. The blue and red wires at the two prong connector should be +12V or -12V depending on sunroof momentary switch position. Found historical records. They can either be manual or automatic, depending on how they work. Emergency Retraction. It might be due to your siren module having a deceased long-life battery. [JMars ] If you can get the sunroof to open, you can sometimes work from the top down. It should not tightly hold down, there should be a little play. Disconnect the rear of the coil springs on either side where they are connected to the flat spring bails. If the store you go to (a fabric store) doesn't have it have them order a new roll. The only manual that will adequately address this is the Volvo factory body manual (Body Fittings: Exterior/ TP 8202201). [Inquiry:] My sunroof motor has died and I do not want to spend $400-500 to replace with a new Volvo motor. Re-install, adjust, and problem solved. The water then reappeared above the guide rails and hence the leak. Twist the sunroof so that the front tabs slide out of the tracks. [Don Hodgdon] The drain holes for the front sunroof drains are just below the leading edge of the front door. Mark where it stops. I used a dry stick lube on the tracks, but I think something less viscous might help the operation (perhaps the aforementioned lithium grease? The range of models may vary depending on market. [Diagnosis:] If your guides are not broken then you may just be out of adjustment. To do this just loosen the screws that hold teh runner down and gently flex it up about 1/3". way back. wicking under the front cover for the sunroof mechanism. [Greg]In the UK there is a capillary crack sealant called Capt. A used seal may be appropriate if a new one is unavailable. [Tips from George Holmer] To convert your manual sunroof to a electric one and enjoy the luxury of a smooth, button operated opening and closing of the sunroof, simply do as follows: At a breakers yard, find a sunroof motor, a motor cover colour matched to your headlining and a switch matching your dash style. Found historical records. [Editor] To clear blockages in the tubes, use a long cable with a non-snagging end or a narrower vinyl tube so you can rotate it within the drain tube as it is pushed down from the sunroof. Your gears are working, so I think this will work. You should now have a track assembly and the sunroof. This causes the sunroof to perpetually sag and fail to achieve the solid seal that prevents water from entering the cabin, affecting both the sunroof headliner and the headliner surrounding the sunroof opener. I will not discuss the more involved procedures, cable replacement, sealing strip replacement, cable sleeve replacement or complete removal of the frame. An overhaul is labor intensive and a new motor might be a better choice] [Response: Rob Bareiss] Replace the motor or live with it. [Inquiry] I tried adjusting my sunroof's sitting position, but it is currently maxed out and is STILL sagging below the roofline. installed, make sure the moonroof closes properly. Get back on the road and enjoy the ride. It may not be possible to operate windows at low temperatures. It'll be IN STOCK at your local dealer (unless they just sold the last one). On ours it's the switch. My issue was different then yours but they replaced the whole sunroof track and motor with a 2017 version. The first and most important step is to determine the extent of your sunroof problem. attach it. Last reported odo: 000 mi. The power to the sunroof may also be malfunctioning, which could cause it to not work at all. Thankfully mine was under warranty. This follows a few weeks of CLICCLICKLCLIK when opened/closed, and some erratic operation. Is there an iternal fuse in the motor? To check for a blockage, try to remove any debris from the sunroof and make sure that there are no blocks in the mechanism. The sunroof circuitry runs through it for some reason on P2 Volvos. If not, then go through the whole disconnect, key in II, reconnect process. See also Ken Didnah's sunroof overhaul tips below.] Perhaps there is an individual in the service department that is not as careful as they need to be. Adjust the sunroof height by operating the sunroof SLIGHTLY in the rearward position and also in the ventilation position, flipped up in the back. You can cut extra length off using tin snips (the seal has a metal core). (not just popped up). Look at the control mechanisms to determine the extent of the repair. [Charles Salley] I used a black silicone trim sealant from my local auto parts store that came with a fine nozzle attachment to force the product into tight areas. Repair: The fix for this is nasty and tedious, but it is doable and inexpensive if you have access to a junkyard. Sunroof: Replace Crank with Motor. Mine would not flip up in the back, in fact one side would not flip up, the other would. Volvo xc60 ,2016 model electric sunroof, I too had issues with sunroof not closing properly, after speaking to a specialist I was informed there is a Master recent , so I tried it and it worked so here is how First turn ignition on, open sunroof fully ,then close sunroof ,keep finger on button for 30 seconds after closer and master reset will reset the sunroof it does work. The panel should "snap" out of its holders in the front and slide back into the roof completely. V60, V60 Twin Engine/Recharge Plug-in Hybrid and V60 Cross Country from model year 2019 to 2022. 1 Answer 04 volvo xc90 Moonroof will not open. "This defect inevitably causes the sound plugs to become clogged with dirt and other debris, causing water to be diverted directly to the interior of the vehicles, rather than the exterior. I didn't remove the crank mechanism from the rail network, and was able to get it all out and back in, but I believe others recommend removing it before lifting all out. If the car is switched off, turn the start knob to, Open the panoramic roof to ventilation position. The sunroof may not open or close properly if it is damaged or has been opened and closed a lot. Strange part is that it won't move nor do a sound when trying to close it. [Tip from Rick Tilghman] This happened to the sunroof on my 1985 745t. Remove the sunroof motor (at the front of the sunroof pan). There are black plastic cam followers that activate one microswitch each on the top and bottom cams. Everything else on the car is working fine. Once this piece snaps in two, the back of the sunroof sags down in the resting position due to the lack of support, making it IMPOSSIBLE to get it sitting right ever again. Put the tracks aside. If a worm has broken, perhaps, but cleaning in situ should suffice. [Dave Rogers] If your car has a sunroof, replacing the headliner is more difficult. [Colin Shepherd] Wire 12v direct to the motor connections as a first step to isolating the problem before stripping out the micro-switches etc. Adjust the sunroof position so that the front edge, when the panel is closed, is 0-1.5mm below the roof and the rear edge is 0-1mm above the roof edge. Review engine, brake issues, error codes and more with a Mechanic Online in just minutes. tubes. Maybe mine wasn't that far out but this didn't seem to make any difference, other than adjusting just how wide it opens. Adjustment is accomplished by loosening a number of screws, moving the roof and re-tightening. Then unsolder the remaining wiring (two black leads) which hold the switches to the selenoid. I tried all the methods found on this forum and around the web without success. Test by opening the sunroof and pouring water into the side of the sunroof pan, then looking for the water to flow freely out the drains. The message will appear if there is a problem. Push the liner back into the space where the roof would normally retract. Check the wires of the sunroof, because a short can cause it to stop working. Remove the cover. On mine when you closed the sunroof it would close then open back up six inches as if it hit something. There are four in the front and (depending on model) two on either side in the middle, and two on either side in the back. This will help when you retime the motor. Once this is completed you may notice your flap riding high and failing toclose properly generally a side effect of pushing the flap up to get it unhooked and playing with it over time. This gives minimum wind noise. Once you have the moonroof seal While the motor is out, carefully pry the Most likely it is out of alignment and too tight for the minimal leverage applied by the motor to move it, as well as being thoroughly gunked up. If your electric sunroof will not retract, you can manually close it using a screwdriver. This little procedure will save you $100's of dollars. I went ahead and changed the fuse just incase and still nothing. Alternatively, you can try to first turn the ignition switch to the first position. Close all of the doors and bonnet. Make sure the spring clips are installed in the rear edge of the sunroof and the large springs are attached to the large pin on the control mechanism. The panoramic sunroof is divided into two glasses. Get as much wire as possible. If the sunroof needs more extensive repair, remove all screws and lift out the sunroof. Remove the cover. Sunroof Won't Open to Vent Position. A few hours job which took me days to trace and fix. XC60, XC60 Twin Engine/Recharge Plug-in Hybrid, V90 Twin Engine/Recharge Plug-in Hybrid and S90 Twin Engine/Recharge Plug-in Hybrid from model year 2018 to 2021. 2023 Volvo XC90 Core: Price, specs, and features 2023 Volvo XC90 Ultimate: Price, specs, and features There's an XC90 luxury SUV for every need Since the Volvo XC90 was first unveiled to the public in January 2001, it has been a favorite among midsize SUV lovers and Volvo loyalists alike . 2) Check for blown fuses and damaged wiring. I don't have a manual yet so I'm not sure how this is supposed to work. If the sunroof does not work, it could also be due to loose wires in the electrical system of the car. For more information about how to operate the panoramic roof, see the owner's manual for your car. Locate these from within the car using a flashlight: they are within the side guides. Worked slick. It is frankly best to remove the sunroof assembly. 3 Press the switch again for at least 5 seconds, so the sunroof closes. [Editor] These seals for 740/760/940 and 780 models are reported as "discontinued" by many Volvo dealers. Right where the headliner panel slides over the tray there There are 2 clips that are best removed/gripped with needle-nose pliers, unclip them and these will release the head-liner cover from the moving panel. by 1 Turn the ignition switch to position 1. It appears that the sunroof seal is interchangeable across 700/900 model years, but the moonroof seal is different. replace the motor and tighten all screws. But the crank no longer clicks to a stop from the crank mechanism pin popping into the hole in the handle. Now just pull the whole assembly out through the top. T20 screws that hold the gutter channel to the frame. I'd noticed my sunroof wasn't totally flush but thought maybe that is easy way things are. I determined one control mechanism was broken so I bought both, since one was bad, the other might not be far behind, and I didn't want to do this repair twice. It's my first as a late in life driver, and I don't want to let it go. Now Anyway, the solution was just to uncouple the retaining arms from the flap (you have to push the flap to a straight up position to do this with it in place), push the arms up out the way, remove the pre-molded resistance piece, bend it appropriately so that it is forcefully "loaded", and reinstall. Close the sunroof and open the sunshield. The next steps I took once the pan is removed, but could probably be done with the pan in place, which might be easier for a sedan. Open the roof in the vent position and use a flashlight to take a closer look. It's likely to be the switch- replacement is pretty straightforward. If there is resistance to the crank motion immediately, there is 'likely' to not be any damage in the screw mechanism, just binding of the panel in the roof. We research hundreds of models each For electric sunroofs remove the cover and tighten the motor mounting screws. Withdraw the motor and undo the connector (may be a little easier said than done depending on the amount of slack in the cable), If your motor "clicks" but doesn't move, remove motor cover (2 phillips) and get access to the motor connector (comes in from left side). Re-Aligning the Crank Gears While Aligning the Sunroof. Does it help the buffeting? Retiming motor (electrically installed in car): Sunroof Won't Stop at Close: Motor Defective. Loosen each of these 1/2 of a turn. Go back inside the car and push the headliner back in its slot, but not too far in lest it get jammed, as it likes to do; everything is now revealed. Emergency Leakstopper: [John Sargent] Get some clear duct tape from Home Depot and seal the gap until you can repair it. I don't know where to start ? Advantageous parking at Frankfurt airport: Benefit until March 31, 2023 from booking online and save additional 5% with your online voucher: "Heart2023". Chat With a Mechanic For Personalized Help. The result that when the motor When you have adjusted one side to match the other, re-install the motor and try it electrically. Slip the headliner off of the exterior. It should close from vent postion. When I checked mine, I found two screws VERY loose and one about to fall out. This vehicle was introduced in 2002 and has become a hit among customers. to close the panoramic roof from fully open position. [Inquiry] Recently I've noticed my sunroof seems to be sagging, and I'm wondering if there is some way to get it sitting straight again? the drains were clean. If the motor won't line up, move the control arm forward on one side Can be done in quick succession and both will happen at same time. This could be due to an electrical short or it could be due to a malfunctioning fuse. grendel1960 4 Replies. See the FAQ section for instructions to remove it. Not exactly sure about # of turns. My sunroof all of a sudden won't close. Addition of Plastic Wind Deflector to Roof. This will reveal a large (2+ in dia) white plastic cam disk that is driven by the motor/gearbox output gear. Remove the side screws and then the front screws. down at all, you have a problem. By capillary action the liquid is drawn in to the joint. A quick jerk is required, or the whole panel will move. Or possibly the car has to run through a few drive cycles before everyting comes back online ? Once you push the sunroof headliner out of the way, you can reach everything else. If no 12V supply is available (I use an old Sun computer power supply) test in the car (see below). My electric sunroof won't open after I had to disconnect the battery cables in the engine bay to get to the O2 Sensor connection below. Looking closely I noticed that there was discoloration on the end of the metal bars that the adjustment screws hold the sunroof onto. The proper solution, IMHO, is to replace the gasket. Back inside, go from vent to 'slide open' mode but only open the sunroof a few inches. Release buttons. To remove the liner: With the liner out of the way you can check all the bolts and screws. I don't [Response: Kerry] (Applies to 1986 765) With your sunroof in the vent position you can remove the sunroof liner and check all the bolts on the mechanism and rail to realign the sunroof. My door latch before was malfunctioning that obviously needed replacement, I was spraying it with a bit of silicone for it to close. If you get a screeching siren, it's time to look elsewhere. This could cause some damage to the interior of the car. I will assume it is electric and the motor works (although it may be seized, have faulty microswitches, or need an overhaul - usual motor clean-up with commutator-cleaning and possibly lubrication, although it may have sealed bearings (most likely)). 3) Check for blockages or debris clogging the sunroof. Slide the headliner panel all the Again, make sure the ground is well grounded. It was disconnected for about 45 minutes. Use some locktite blue on any you have to tighten up. Problem: occasionally, if the sunroof were opened to either the full back or full tilt position, it would not be possible to move it out of these positions. This plastic cover contains two microswitches, a selenoid (remember "click") and three small pointed plungers. Remove the drive gear from the roof. Hold the motor in your hand and run the motor rearwards to the stop position (4-5 secs). Then from inside or outside the car(wherever you can get a good bite) give the sunroof headliner a shove(a mighty shove) to the rear. How do you tell if it's a common failure item? I'm having an issue with the hatch not opening, has anyone else experienced this? Will it move at all, will it retract ok and not close, will it flip up in the back? When I was done, I used a razor blade to trim off the excess butyl. Press the button downward once to close the panoramic roof from ventilation position. If you feel under the rocker panel, there is a "D" shaped hole that the water from the sunroof and the fresh air vent (at the base of the windshield) drain to. I found one of mine had dried out grease and was nearly ready to break. C ColoradoCruiser Registered It took more than 20 phone calls to have the case escalated to the point that Volvo agreed to tow the car to a local tire store. by beetlebob 13 May 2011, 12:50, Post From them it cost 4 plus 2 P&P including vat., others were charging up to 12 + P&P. 2. The switch makes a clicking sound but the sunroof does not move. It can be purchased from the manufactures website www.captaintolley.com or from one of the retailers listed on the site. With the roof out, your experience should allow you to fix whatever I have neglected to mention. Can't guess why except they're about the right age to fail, and they're among the earliest cars to have this unit. The control mechanisms should now lay flat and be loose, not tight under tension. Pull on these to remove the headliner from the exterior part of the sunroof. Disconnect the motor from the gears. 7 MAX 18" . multifunction sunroof moonroof A shove will release. To fully open the sunroof, press the control back to the position for automatic opening again and release. Then move one cable using a flat blade screwdriver. rubber snubbers that sit under the deflector, only glued in, and frequently these have vanished, therefore not encouraging the roof to finish in the flush position. NONE of the newer volvos sunroof brackets were snapped, and all were in perfect working order. Reinstall the coil springs on the flat bails. Sunroof reset (calibration) that works. Sunroof Headliner Replacement. Remove the crank from the drive gear shaft. If there is too much debris, this will eventually cause the sunroof cables to become damaged, and this will be very difficult to repair. The Questions and Answers on this page are the statements and opinions of their respective authors and not VehicleHistory.com. Wind deflector definately worth it!! Jim passed away in early 2022, his contributions to this forum are immortal, and he is missed. [Editor] Some models have this lip and gasket on the sunroof panel front edge. They all work loose over time and will cause the drive teeth and/or the drive cables to bind, wear out or get the lid misaligned and then the roof will not close. This problem is apparently limited to earlier production models, but it is possible that later years could experience the same problem if excessive downward force is applied to the sunroof (a luggage carrier comes to mind). Sunroof shade stuck open Got the sunroof shade stuck in the open position after opening the roof to 100%. Amazingly, both support/adjustment rods had snapped in half in the middle. I have already pulled the fuses and the other int. Open the panoramic roof fully Take hold of the button and pull it backward twice to fully open the panoramic roof. Also, when you look at the motor, there is a guarded-by-paint screw that I believe is used to adjust the microswitches, but I have not observed any change when I fiddled with my own. Use a screwdriver to depress the bearing and turn the screw to manually operate the roof. Volvo models with sunroofs Almost all Volvo cars come with a sunroof as an optional add-on.